A really big fool.

Self declared homophobe.

Disgusting individual.

I have no idea how homphobia is acceptable but sexism and racism are ban worthy offenses.

Obama was a lecturer in Con Law, and a comunity organizer, and won a tough Senate Primary against the Chicago Machine.  

But you really don't care, do you?  You just looking to score points.  Bravo to you, I say.

Anyway, we'd be lucky as a nation if Obama was half as great a president as Lincoln.

Wouldn't you say that, all things considered, Obama has done plenty to distinguish himself from his peers? People like to dismiss it as "he gives good speeches", but the truth is it takes a broad and varied skillset to achieve what Obama has achieved in the last 15 years.

In virtual synchronicity with Bush's acquiescence to Obama's policy on Iran, the government of Israel exchanged prisoners and remains with Lebanon and Hezbollah.  Two days before Obama's arrival in Israel the government announced the construction of a new Arab city in Galilee, the first such project since 1948.  In his June address to AIPAC, Obama specifically recommended his own prescription for peace that included the following sentence:

"Israel can also advance the cause of peace by taking appropriate steps consistent with its security to ease the freedom of movement for Palestinians and improve economic conditions in the West Bank."

It is now abundantly clear that the junior Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, is having an impact on international diplomacy even though he is still merely the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

Michael Carmichael - Obama Forces Flip-Flops to Paralyze McCain The Huffington Post 23 Jul 08

Influencing policy before he's even elected?  That's not just experience, that's phenomenal.  Some of you may have forgotten he majored in Political Science with a specialisation in International Relations at Columbia University, a breeding ground for State Department careerists and think tankers.

turn into bash Hillary? If Obama is targetted unfairly, comment on that and prove the meme wrong.

Your above statement

So then what experience did Hillary have? She didn't have any executive experience. No, being married to Bill doesn't count.

is so way out of proportion, completely ridiculous, something that was bandied literally freely in the primary camp by anti HRC folks especially in the blogs. Hillary Clinton, while married to Bill Clinton, worked mostly in the private sector practicising as a lawyer ('78-'92) and a partner to the Rose Law Firm before Bill started his first presidency in 1992.
For your information HRC was selected as a Top 100 lawyer nationally by Time magazine twice during that period. When Bill was earning $35,000 salary as the Arkansas Governor, she was the one earning enough in the private sector to run the family.

Learn more,
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articl e/0,9171,974745-1,00.html

Thank you very much for your time.

As far as I can tell, yellowdem1129 has always been a Clinton supporter, going back at least to December of last year, perhaps beyond (well before Republican infiltration began in earnest).

He's simply a very conservative DLC Democrat who idolizes people like Harold Ford, Jr.  It may be somewhat distasteful to admit, but these sorts of conservative Democrats have been with us a long time, and will remain with us... especially with the new winning strategy of tailoring conservative Democrats to win conservative districts (see Cazayoux, Don).  Governor Dean is alright with having them if it means breaking the Republican hegemony, so I guess we should be as well.

That doesn't change the fact that yellowdem here has disasterous policy ideas and doesn't bother to hide his homophobic feelings, so feel free to tear him apart on those issues.

Are you sure the Clinton being referred to isn't Bill Clinton?  

was a top ligitator on her right during the time she was Arkansas First Lady? She was working as a lawyer in the private sector just like of most of us normal folks who work to make ends meet for the family. For you and some anti HRC folks, being selected by Time magazine as a top 100 lawyer nationally during that time frame may not mean much, but for most of us it is an indicator that she was a top lawyer and that experience means heck of a lot.

to say those years don't count because her husband was serving in a higher profile position than her.

Did you know that every year they were married, until Bill was elected governor, that she supported him financially because she had a better salary?

A common thread throughout her career is a focus on children and health care:

Rodham maintained her interest in children's law and family policy, publishing the scholarly articles "Children's Policies: Abandonment and Neglect" in 1977[70] and "Children's Rights: A Legal Perspective" in 1979.[71] The latter continued her argument that children's legal competence depended upon their age and other circumstances, and that serious medical rights cases, judicial intervention was sometimes warranted.[50] An American Bar Association chair later said, "Her articles were important, not because they were radically new but because they helped formulate something that had been inchoate."[50] Historian Garry Wills would later describe her as "one of the more important scholar-activists of the last two decades",[72] while conservatives said her theories would usurp traditional parental authority,[73] allow children to file frivolous lawsuits against their parents,[50] and argued that her work was legal "crit" theory run amok.[74]

Also in 1977, Rodham co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund.[36][75] And later that same year, President Jimmy Carter (for whom Rodham had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana[76]) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation,[77] and she served in that capacity from 1978 until the end of 1981.[78] From mid-1978 to mid-1980[79] she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so.[80] During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million; subsequently she successfully fought President Ronald Reagan's attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.[68]

no incumbent should ever lose, if experience is the bar. As you point out, they HAVE the job, the other guy just wants it.

BTW, I don't think experience is the be-all-end-all, if it wasn't apparent from my post.

That shot was sweet.

I guarantee you, when the McCain camp saw that shot sink they were sick to their collective stomachs.

You are so full of crap it hurts.  If Kathleen Sebelius's husband ran of Governer based on his being her husband he would be laughed out of town as well.  

I don't discount the other things she did, I also don't discount the things Obama did, because I am actually an honest person and not a hack.  

I am not saying she is not qualified, I am saying she is, but the Presidents wife angle is a joke.  There is no set qualification for being president, and both had impressive histories.  

Sadly for you, I am no sexist, because anyone that attempts to get a job on their spouses name is a joke, man or woman, it does not matter.

My mother is married to a carpenter and I wouldn't let her hammer a nail into a wall...and she wouldn't even try.

My aunt is married to a surgeon and nobody would give her a scapel.

It's not sexist to say a woman cannot claim being married to a person who does a job experience to hold said job herself.

Nothing sexist here. You know why? Because you can reverse the situation and the argument is identical. In fact, the argument holds just as much water if we were talking about a same-sex relationship, or a parent-child relationship.

It has nothing to do with her being a 'wife'. It has everything to do with the simple and painfully obvious fact that Hilary Clinton was never President.

What if a gay politican, let's call him Steve, was married to a gay lawyer, who we will call Bob. Steve becomes president (hooray!) and Bob becomes the... er... 'first partner' I suppose. Then, a decade later Bob runs for president and people say "oh, sure, Bob lived in the White House but he was never actually president! He doesn't have executive experience!". You could argue if this is true or not all you want. But you sure as hell couldn't claim that this argument is sexist.